User talk:Ceras SanMarina

Welcome!
Welcome to the wiki! I appreciate all the help you've done so far! I hope you'll continue the great work! ^^ Icelilly 20:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Manga and Fanon Sections
I haven't gotten any ideas for the manga section yet. But if I do I will let you know. As for the fanon section, it's pretty much dedicated to anything fan-made. Although, fan-made characters are not put here mainly for the fact that Himaruya might make it that particular character canon.

Here's some things so far I've come up with for the Fanon section:


 * Pairing articles
 * Common fan terms (I'm thinking of just putting this into one giant article)
 * Fanfics
 * Fanvideos
 * Fan websites

Got any more that you feel has been missed? Icelilly 21:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Uniform Guide
I absolutely love how you've started the project! The articles made so far are looking great! I'll see if I can some images. I know there's sketches of North Italy in different outfits through his different stages of life. I'll see if I can find it. Also, do you want Chibitalia's outfits with North Italy or do you want a separate article? Icelilly 16:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem.
Thanks, I'm already enjoying working on this Wiki. It's really great!

Seems like the Wiki's not very... famous... Maybe it needs some changes in its appearance? And promotion :)

I'd be honoured if I'm allowed to edit the Main page!

And sorry for my bad english. - ~ Shinatty-Chan Talk 19:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm glad to hear that. I thought I'd write some horrible wrong sentences and not more...

And I just noticed that you aren't an admin. XD I'll let Lilly know, if I have any suggestions. ~ Shinatty-Chan Talk 20:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Allies/Axis pages
Okay, if it's so, I'll try making an Allie and an Axis article, incl. the minor characters. I mean, Bulgary appeared in episode 28 and Ludwig called him an Axis, so I s'pose the historical members can count, too.

And no, unfortunately I don't have any source for the marriage thing. ~__~" ~ Shinatty-Chan Talk 13:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The minor characters could very well go in there. After all, Bulgaria is mentioned as an "Axis" (and before that manga appearance, Himaruya mentioned plans to design him in an old '07 archived post on Kitayume. He also mentioned Romania and another Axis Power, can't remember who at the moment). Finland is also shown with Germany in Chapter 4 of the webcomic, and was shown in the Axis military outfit designs, so he could go there. Prussia was too, though he was counted as "Germany" since the Prussian state was dissolved for the first time at that point. And then there's Canada's appearance as part of the Allies in the published version and anime (though no one else notices him). Good luck on those! ^^ Ceras SanMarina 14:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes
I've had this idea for a while now. What do you think about adding userboxes for people to put in their userpages. Bulbapedia and Wikipedia have this feature for their users. What do you think? I'd like to grab to up opinions before doing anything. Icelilly 18:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me :) Ceras SanMarina 23:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! I'll see if I can figure out how to do this. I think there's a tutorial around here somewhere. But first I'll wait and see what Shinatty-Chan thinks. Icelilly 14:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Uniform Guide
I had an idea regarding the images on the Uniform Guide pages. What if we used the gallery format that's present on the Eyecatch page. It will make the pages look a lot cleaner. The gallery would be put at the bottom of the page after all the clothing has been introduced and explained. What do think? Is it a good idea? Icelilly 21:52, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's really a great idea! I'm not very good with coding on wikias, but I was wondering if we'd need to implement a 'Gallery' somewhere. It could work for the "multiple views" of an outfit too (old-style vs. new-style versions). It'd help clean up the pesky images that can't be resized too easily either, hopefully (I'm thinking of a few articles, like the Gakuen one). Ceras SanMarina 22:55, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

I can give it a go. I'll try it out with Hungary's page and you can see if you like it or not. If you don't like it, then we can go back to the old edit and figure out another way to do this. Icelilly 23:39, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: I tried it out. It looks better than I thought it would be. Do you like it better like this? Icelilly 00:19, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nice job! I think that format could really work for the guide. And this way, we don't have to worry about too much page-stretching if more get added. Thanks :D Ceras SanMarina 01:02, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wow! It seems you've been busy! Great job on the reformatting! I'll see if I can get more images including more of the chibis and the santa outfits from last year. Icelilly 14:28, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. I had quite the free time, and I spent some of it looking through the Upload gallery for certain images. The World Cup uniforms could probably even be fit into the "gallery" format at this point, though he only drew a few of them (so far) so it's hard to say. It seems some of the big lineart pictures were originally for a "height difference chart" that he's never finished too (such a shame!) Ceras SanMarina 19:49, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah! I forgot about that! Must find those! I just finished uploading my first batch of images. I won't have time to put them in the gallery tonight but I'll do it tomorrow unless you want to give a go. Icelilly 01:41, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Any way to clean up pairing articles?
I was looking at the recently edited pages and many of the pairing articles are a mess, either short, off-topic, or nothing but speculation. Is there an effective way to clean them up? It's a bit difficult to do when the pages generally consist of fan interpretation and a reiteration of the plot, which often just catalogs absolutely any interaction a character has with another. I attempted a few times to clean Russia/America, but the entire article is written with a "fanon" tone, so even information that could be correct might be wrong (did that strip under "Modern Times" occur, and I just missed it?). So, I gave up and let it be. I tend to stay away from those articles in general, except to fix spelling mistakes or make note that it's fanon, but I'd feel guilty distributing incorrect information; the Russia/America articles states it's "mainly slash", implying there are real "moments" between the two. Should the Wikia come to a consensus on these articles, such as guidelines or whether or not to just list the ones with little information/small fanbases (or exclude them altogether)? I feel like it'd be better to nip it in the bud instead of having to deal with it later. Watermint 21:32, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I love you, Watermint. Thank you, seriously.

Lately, I've been trying to fix up the Russia/America page as well, seeing as it's one of the biggest fan pairings out there, but I really don't like where it's going...

It actually took me this page to realized this has been happening with most of the new pairing pages. The old ones are actually okay, but it's new ones that are going down. I think it's because people are just making the article, and then just leaving it without any kind of information, leaving us to try to fill in the gaps. Heck, most of the pairings I'm trying to work with aren't any that I really suport and know nothing about!

As for the guidelines...wouldn't that be rather difficult? I mean, having a good template to work with would be great, but actually having a ban on certain pairings? Some I understand (ex. fan characters), but if we can get someone who actually ships a pairing, and can actually do an article, a good article, on it...

P.S. - The strip really did happen. Right after that little event, Arthur stepped in to give his present to Alfred.

I'm sorry. I'm still trying to get the 'Moments' secion done. :)

Happy Birthday! That strip. Scroll down a little bit. --Tiamatwizard 23:16, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, thanks^^ I've noticed quality is much better with older articles as well...Most of the new ones are just a mess, though that's not to say the older ones couldn't be improved. I also think there's a problem when it comes to fleshing them out--how can we fill in the blanks when we don't even have sources to go to? I think guidelines would be difficult, depending on the pairing. For something with character who have never/barely met, thus only really have fan speculation, the information is better suited for a list. I'm not opposed to articles on pairings, as long as they're done well and make it known that, despite some fans' insistances, nothing has been outright confirmed as canon (with exceptions).

Thanks! For the article, I had a hard time telling if it was fan-made or not, considering the first section was from the series and the Cold War section was entirely about fanfiction. D: Just looked at your work on Russia/America; it's already been massively improved! Watermint 00:05, May 10, 2010 (UTC)